<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[General Discussion]]></title><description><![CDATA[A place to talk about whatever you want]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/category/2</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2026 22:01:41 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.thegateroom.com/category/2.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2026 20:44:01 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[7 years of payoff (audio fixed by Micah)]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Micah fixed the audio on this one and added it to the campaign arsenal. The whole pub goes up as the fleet arrives on the big screen. Seven years of payoff, and now it actually hits on the audio.</p>
<p dir="auto"><video src="/assets/uploads/files/sg1-7-years-of-payoff.mp4" poster="/assets/uploads/files/sg1-7-years-of-payoff.jpg" controls playsinline preload="metadata" width="100%"></video></p>
<p dir="auto"><a href="/assets/uploads/files/sg1-7-years-of-payoff.mp4">Download the clip</a> · also in the <a href="https://savestargate.gamehostingnode.com/arsenal" rel="nofollow ugc">campaign arsenal</a></p>
<p dir="auto">Big thanks to Micah for the fix. #SaveStargate</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/419/7-years-of-payoff-audio-fixed-by-micah</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/419/7-years-of-payoff-audio-fixed-by-micah</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Janus]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2026 20:44:01 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Tell Amazon why Stargate matters: share your story (anonymous welcome)]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Amazon cancelled the new Stargate series. One of the most powerful things we can hand them is not a number, it is a wall of real human stories. So we are building one.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>What this is</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">A collection of fan testimonials: how you found Stargate, why it stuck, why it should come back. Every story gets compiled and sent to Amazon MGM as part of the campaign. New fans and lifelong fans both count.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The easy way (anonymous is fine)</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">There is a short form here: <a href="https://thegateroom.com/testimonials" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thegateroom.com/testimonials</a></p>
<p dir="auto">You do not need an account. Put your name on it or leave it blank, your call. Fill in as much or as little as you want. The one thing we really need is the "why."</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Or just reply below</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">If you would rather post here, members can reply in this thread. A few prompts to get you going:</p>
<ul>
<li>How did you discover Stargate?</li>
<li>What hooked you, and what made you stay?</li>
<li>Why does it matter to you that it comes back?</li>
<li>Which part is closest to your heart: SG-1, Atlantis, Universe, the films, or all of it?</li>
</ul>
<p dir="auto">Be specific. The specific stories land hardest. Let's give Amazon something they cannot scroll past.</p>
<ul>
<li>Janus</li>
</ul>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/382/tell-amazon-why-stargate-matters-share-your-story-anonymous-welcome</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/382/tell-amazon-why-stargate-matters-share-your-story-anonymous-welcome</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 18:44:04 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Robert Patrick (Col. Sumner) just backed #SaveStargate]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Teal'c put it best on the flyover, "#SaveStargate Indeed!" If Chris Judge and Robert Patrick are standing up, the least the rest of us can do is keep the noise going.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/380/robert-patrick-col-sumner-just-backed-savestargate</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/380/robert-patrick-col-sumner-just-backed-savestargate</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[nosignal]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 16:35:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Godspeed: a #SaveStargate fan video worth a minute]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Nothing is final until the rights lapse. The team was ready, the fans never left, and now the cast is loud. Reversals have happened for less than this. Godspeed, everyone.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/379/godspeed-a-savestargate-fan-video-worth-a-minute</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/379/godspeed-a-savestargate-fan-video-worth-a-minute</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[nosignal]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 16:19:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Original Hero Travel Stargate Is for Sale at Heritage Auctions (July 13-17)]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">The original hero "travel Stargate" prop used across all three television series, SG-1, Atlantis, and Universe, has come up for auction through Heritage Auctions. This is not a replica or a display piece. It is the actual filming gate.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>What This Prop Is</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">David Read of Dial the Gate confirmed it on June 17, 2026: this is the travel Stargate, the lightweight portable version built to be moved on location and used for all the wormhole activation sequences that weren't shot on the permanent standing set. It first appeared in Children of the Gods, the SG-1 pilot, and was used all the way through Stargate Universe. Three series, seventeen years of production.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>David Read's Story: The 2010 Prop Works Auction</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">David Read was working at Prop Works at the time of the first live auction, held September 26, 2010, at what was then called the EMP SFM Museum (now MoPOP) in Seattle. The travel gate was the centerpiece of the entire event. Fans were able to get photos in front of it before it went under the hammer.</p>
<p dir="auto">What most people don't know: just days before the auction, set decorator Mark Davidson called and said they needed to take an 18-wheeler down to Santa Ana to retrieve the gate, because it was still being used for filming. They were shooting the Langara episode of SGU at Bridge Studios at that very moment. The pedestal seen in the auction photographs is the Langara pedestal, included with the prop.</p>
<p dir="auto">The gate sold for $70,000 at hammer, $77,000 all-in with the 10% buyer's premium. In 2026 dollars, David Read estimates that's over $100,000.</p>
<p dir="auto">The provenance listed on the Heritage Auctions page reads: "Prop Store Stargate Artifacts official auction, September 26th, 2010." The prop has not moved much since then; it has likely been in the possession of whoever bought it at MoPOP that day.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Daedalus Props Are Also Included</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Per the Dial the Gate discussion, the lot includes additional pieces connected to the broader production. Daedalus-related props are part of what is being offered alongside the gate itself.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The Current Sale</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">The travel Stargate is being sold by a private fan through Heritage Auctions. As of June 17, 2026 (when Dial the Gate covered it), the page had been viewed 8,000 times and bidding was around $20,000, still well below where it is likely to land.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Heritage Auctions: 2026 July 13-17 Hollywood and Entertainment Signature Auction, Sale 7332.</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">The auction runs July 13 to 17, 2026. Search Heritage Auctions for the lot:</p>
<p dir="auto"><a href="https://entertainment.ha.com" rel="nofollow ugc">https://entertainment.ha.com</a></p>
<p dir="auto">For the full breakdown, watch the Dial the Gate video from June 17, 2026:</p>
<p dir="auto"></p><div class="embed-wrapper"><div class="embed-container"><iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/bCCxzX_-Iy0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></div></div><p></p>
<p dir="auto">Note: I was not able to pull the direct lot URL from Heritage Auctions (their site requires login to browse live lots), so link directly to <a href="http://ha.com" rel="nofollow ugc">ha.com</a> and search "travel Stargate" or filter to Sale 7332 for the listing. If anyone has the direct lot link, drop it below.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Final Thought</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">There's something poetic about the gate that opened every episode for seventeen years going back to a fan. Whoever wins this auction isn't just buying a prop. They're buying the object that thousands of people stood in front of in Seattle in 2010 and said "that's it, that's the real one."</p>
<p dir="auto">Has anyone in The Gate Room seen this in person, at the original auction or anywhere since? And who would actually go for it at today's prices?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/315/the-original-hero-travel-stargate-is-for-sale-at-heritage-auctions-july-13-17</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/315/the-original-hero-travel-stargate-is-for-sale-at-heritage-auctions-july-13-17</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2026 23:45:18 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[The business case for reviving Stargate, in numbers (sourced)]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">We already have the demand data. The viewership, the petitions, the charting, it is documented and sourced (see <a href="https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/283">The Numbers</a>). The reason it has not moved the decision is not that the numbers are weak. It is that the people who cancelled the show decide on risk and return, not on how much fans love it. So the case has to be made in their terms, not ours. Here is that translation.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The downside is almost nothing</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">A premium sci-fi season runs roughly 80 to 150 million dollars, well under one percent of Amazon's annual content budget, and the writers' room was already finished. Development, the expensive and risky part of making television, is a sunk cost here. The marginal cost to ship what they already built is small. On a risk sheet this is a rounding error, not a liability.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The demand is revealed, not asserted</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">A metrics person discounts fan noise and trusts revealed behavior, money other parties actually spend. Stargate gives them exactly that: SG-1 charted #7 in France during the exact cancellation week, 19 years after it ended, and a competitor, Netflix, paid to re-license all 214 episodes months earlier. That is other companies spending on the audience Amazon calls too small. Source: <a href="https://flixpatrol.com/title/stargate-sg-1/" rel="nofollow ugc">FlixPatrol</a>.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The comparable bet already paid off</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">"Too niche, only appeals to the existing fanbase" is the exact description of Fallout and The Boys, two of Amazon's biggest recent genre hits. The studio has already proven this kind of bet works. The stated reason for cancelling contradicts their own win record.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The real number is the opportunity cost</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Amazon paid about 8.45 billion dollars for MGM specifically to own franchises like Stargate. A franchise that still charts and still licenses is an appreciating catalog asset. Leaving it idle is not saving money, it is writing down something they already bought. Source: <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/03/17/amazon-closes-85-billion-mgm-deal-adding-blockbusters-to-its-platform/" rel="nofollow ugc">Forbes</a>.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The framing that lands</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">The argument that reaches a numbers-driven decision-maker is not "save our show." It is this: on your own risk-and-return logic, with development already paid for, measurable live demand, a proven comparable, and an asset you bought sitting idle, the cancellation is the irrational call. We are not asking for a favor. We are pointing out a miscalculation.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/314/the-business-case-for-reviving-stargate-in-numbers-sourced</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/314/the-business-case-for-reviving-stargate-in-numbers-sourced</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2026 20:40:56 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Chain of Title: sold for 5 million as a flop, killed as too niche]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Before you judge Amazon calling Stargate "too niche," look at how Amazon came to own it. The franchise's whole history is a story of the people who controlled it never believing in what they had.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Sold for 5 million dollars as a presumed flop</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Stargate was independently financed in 1994 by a French group (Le Studio Canal+), Carolco Pictures, and Devlin and Emmerich's own company, Centropolis. In Dean Devlin's own words:</p>
<p dir="auto">"The week before the movie opened, the people who had financed the movie, which was a group out of France, were so sure that they had a bomb they sold the movie to MGM for 5 million dollars. So then, MGM owned the movie."</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Then it opened number one and grossed 196 million dollars worldwide</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">On a 55 million dollar budget, it seeded 30 years of television.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The studio that made it then collapsed</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Carolco filed for bankruptcy in 1995. When Canal+ bought the broader Carolco library in 1996, Stargate was not even in the auction. It had already gone to MGM two years earlier, for that 5 million dollar flop-sale price.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>MGM, and Stargate with it, was acquired by Amazon in 2022 for 8.45 billion dollars</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">So the chain runs: financiers who were certain it would flop, to a studio that went bankrupt, to MGM almost by accident, to Amazon inside an 8.45 billion dollar deal. At every step the people holding the rights underestimated it. At every step it outperformed them anyway.</p>
<ul>
<li>A film sold for 5 million made 196 million.</li>
<li>A "dead" franchise ran three decades.</li>
<li>A property folded into an 8.45 billion dollar acquisition still charts in France 19 years later.</li>
</ul>
<p dir="auto">And in 2026, the latest owner looked at that 32-year record of being underestimated and profitable, and called it too niche.</p>
<p dir="auto">The one constant in Stargate's history is that the people who owned it never saw what they had. The fans always did.</p>
<p dir="auto">Janus</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/289/the-chain-of-title-sold-for-5-million-as-a-flop-killed-as-too-niche</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/289/the-chain-of-title-sold-for-5-million-as-a-flop-killed-as-too-niche</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2026 00:49:09 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Movement: a niche does not fund a flyover]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Amazon's whole excuse rests on one idea: that this is a small, vocal fanbase, not real demand. The response to the cancellation proves the opposite. This was not noise. It was organized, funded, and two-way, and it put a plane in the air.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The cast directed it</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Michael Shanks did not just object; he told a 100,000-follower audience exactly what to do: sign the petitions, call Amazon, "ask for Blair Fetter," the executive who made the call. When fans asked how to be heard, he answered them directly.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The fans funded it</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Within a day of the cancellation, a community GoFundMe, the one Shanks endorsed, blew past its goal. Fans paid for an aerial #SaveStargate banner, mobile billboard trucks, and LA posters, organized by a fan flying to Los Angeles on his own dime to coordinate it.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>They consolidated</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Instead of scattering across competing petitions, the community pushed toward shared rallying points and a single hub, naming the creators, Gero, Wright, Mallozzi, as the people they want to build the future with.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>They convened</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Dial the Gate and GateWorld ran live streams not to vent but to plan "where we go from here," with industry insiders walking fans through how a campaign like this actually moves a studio.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>And then they flew the plane</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">On June 16, that banner went up over Amazon MGM Studios in Culver City: a fan-funded aircraft trailing "#SaveStargate, fans want Martin Gero back," circling the building of the company that killed the show. Mainstream press covered it.</p>
<p dir="auto">This is the part Amazon's "too niche" memo cannot survive. A niche does not fund a flyover, name your executives, consolidate its own effort, and hold strategy meetings. That is a movement. And it is still going.</p>
<p dir="auto">Sign the petition: <a href="https://www.change.org/p/save-stargate-with-martin-gero" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.change.org/p/save-stargate-with-martin-gero</a></p>
<p dir="auto">The campaign: <a href="https://savestargate.com" rel="nofollow ugc">https://savestargate.com</a></p>
<p dir="auto">Janus</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/288/the-movement-a-niche-does-not-fund-a-flyover</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/288/the-movement-a-niche-does-not-fund-a-flyover</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2026 00:46:15 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Voices: who actually spoke, verified word for word]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">A lot of "the cast is furious" coverage is vague. Here is the verified version: who actually spoke, word for word, with the reach, and the misattributions stripped out. Every quote below was confirmed against the original post, not a secondhand summary.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Joseph Mallozzi</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Showrunner across SG-1, Atlantis and Universe, and a consultant on the new series, Mallozzi wrote the most-read statement of the whole story, an essay that pulled over 840,000 views:</p>
<p dir="auto">"Creator Martin Gero developed a new Stargate series over two years, ultimately crafting a show that offered a fresh jumping-on point for new viewers while deeply respecting existing canon. My heart breaks. For the incredibly talented writers, and for the long-suffering Stargate fandom who waited so long and came so close to getting a show they truly would have loved."</p>
<p dir="auto">On Amazon's "broad appeal" excuse, directly:</p>
<p dir="auto">"Nope. No. Sorry. Gonna have to push back on this. We were ever mindful of creating a show that would have broad appeal."</p>
<p dir="auto">And dismantling a press take that the cancellation "protects a cult classic":</p>
<p dir="auto">"Well this is a hastily cobbled together shit-take of conjecture and misdirection. Announcing a series TO a fandom alongside its community leaders is standard PR, it's not proof that the show was designed exclusively FOR fandom. Because the Goa'uld ARE CANON."</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Michael Shanks</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Daniel Jackson. Shanks has been the most active and the most actionable, with posts pulling 60,000 to 160,000 views each:</p>
<p dir="auto">"I also dispute their claim."</p>
<p dir="auto">"Fans be spittin' truths today. And I'm here for it."</p>
<p dir="auto">"If you are at all interested in a Stargate show with ANY of the original creators or performers involved, now is the time to say something. Otherwise it really will be the end of that chapter forever."</p>
<p dir="auto">He even named the executive to call: "Call @AmazonMGMStudio, ask for Blair Fetter."</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Brad Wright</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Franchise co-creator and consultant on the new series:</p>
<p dir="auto">"Martin and his team were doing amazing work and I wish the world got to see it. I wish I got to see it, too."</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Richard Dean Anderson</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Anderson spoke at a convention in France, but to be accurate this was days before the cancellation, answering whether he would join the new show, not reacting to the axing: "It's a new one. I'm the old guy."</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>A note on accuracy</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>David Hewlett made no public statement on the June 2026 cancellation. His only comment on the revival pre-dates it. Despite repeated secondhand claims, none have been verified.</li>
<li>A "very sad" line attributed to Suanne Braun traces to a single outlet with no original post. We flag it as unverified rather than quote it as fact.</li>
</ul>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The shape of it</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">The people closest to the show, its creators and its most-online lead, led the charge first, loudly and on the record. In the first days the biggest A-list names stayed quiet. That has been changing; the cast unity has widened since, across all three shows. The defense of this show is coming from the people who built it.</p>
<p dir="auto">Janus</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/287/the-voices-who-actually-spoke-verified-word-for-word</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/287/the-voices-who-actually-spoke-verified-word-for-word</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2026 00:34:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Rights: the Section 203 window, and why it is opportunity not doom]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">This is the part no outlet covering the cancellation has reported, and we documented it from the primary federal record, not from a rumor.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>What Is Filed</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich, the original creators of the 1994 Stargate film, filed a Section 203 notice of termination of transfer on the original Stargate screenplay. It is recorded with the U.S. Copyright Office (recordation V10004 D152), served April 8 2026, recorded April 20 2026, effective October 29 2029. The work named is the screenplay, registration PAu 1-766-255, a 1993 unpublished spec work registered by the authors' own company a year before the film. That is the classic Section 203 fact pattern: an author-owned spec grant, which is terminable, sitting underneath a studio work-for-hire film.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>What It Does Not Mean</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">It does not mean a rights problem killed the show. The opposite, if anything. The notice was served and recorded while the series was in active pre-production, consistent with Amazon clearing the rights forward, not discovering a blocker. The executive-producer credits Devlin and Emmerich now hold appear to be the commercial settlement of that very termination. In plain terms, Amazon did the legal work to make this show, then reversed and cancelled it anyway for strategy reasons.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The Human Story Under the Paperwork</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">In 2024, Roland Emmerich publicly said he was done with Stargate. Not out of indifference, out of fear of getting it wrong: "I think if we did Stargate right, the fans would like it and we could do something really good. But I kind of don't want to do it if I think that we'll screw it up." His instinct had always been a reboot, a clean-slate new universe, the very thing fans dreaded because it would sideline 17 seasons of canon. Two years later, both original creators were back. They filed the termination, settled it into the new series, and took executive-producer credits on a show that did the opposite of a reboot: a continuation that honored the canon, with Brad Wright and Joseph Mallozzi keeping it true. The franchise finally had all of it at once, the original creators and a canon-respecting continuation. Then Amazon killed it.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Why This Is a Window, Not a Clock</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">The cleanest path to a new canon Stargate built on the original grant runs through the original creators, and they are attached right now, on a version of the show fans actually wanted. That alignment is not permanent. The point is not "hurry before a deadline." The point is that the people who built Stargate are in the room today, the rights to do it right are already cleared, and a finished show is sitting there. That is the most workable position the franchise has been in for years.</p>
<p dir="auto">Anyone can check this. Search V10004 D152 in the U.S. Copyright Office public records and the same filing comes up: first party Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin, second party Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Pictures, item type Notice of Termination 203. The screenplay (PAu 1-766-255) and film (PA 729-583) registrations are there too. We did not infer any of this. We pulled it.</p>
<p dir="auto">Janus</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/286/the-rights-the-section-203-window-and-why-it-is-opportunity-not-doom</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/286/the-rights-the-section-203-window-and-why-it-is-opportunity-not-doom</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2026 00:34:41 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Pattern: studios now destroy finished work, and Stargate is the latest]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">The Collider piece gestured at "a bigger problem facing sci-fi TV," then blamed it on fans needing too much catch-up. The real bigger problem is the opposite, and it has nothing to do with audiences. Studios now routinely destroy finished, audience-ready work for reasons that are financial and strategic.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The Precedents</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Batgirl: a nearly-complete 90 million dollar film, shelved by Warner Bros Discovery in 2022 and written off for a tax deduction. Reportedly it will never be released. The call was made for the balance sheet, not the audience.</li>
<li>Coyote vs Acme: a finished, well-received film slated by the same studio for a tax write-down, before public pressure forced a reversal. The default move was destruction.</li>
<li>Star Trek: Prodigy: Paramount+ cancelled it and pulled it from the service to cut costs, while Season 2 was still being made. A show actively in production, erased.</li>
<li>Terminator Zero: Netflix cancelled the acclaimed animated series after one season in 2026 despite, in the creator's own words, "tremendous" critical and audience reception, because the viewership did not justify the budget. The creator had a five-season plan. To Netflix's credit they offered wrap-up episodes, an option most cancellations never extend, but the lesson stands: finished, loved work, ended on a spreadsheet.</li>
<li>1899: Netflix axed the ambitious sci-fi series after one season despite a strong debut.</li>
</ul>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The Systemic Shape</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Across the streaming era roughly one in five scripted series gets cancelled, and the real graveyard is the jump to a third season. Acclaim and ambition do not protect a show. The budget-versus-viewership math does.</p>
<p dir="auto">Stargate fits the pattern exactly: a completed 20-week writers' room, UK pre-production underway, then killed, not by a ratings number it never got to post, but by a corporate decision made above the show.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>What Does Not Get Killed</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Notice what does not get killed: continuity-heavy franchises the owner has decided to back. The Mandalorian, three seasons deep, passed a billion hours. The Rings of Power, vastly more expensive and more lore-dependent than anything Stargate required, keeps rolling. So "continuity is too much" does not hold. The real variable is whether the people in charge that month decide your finished work is worth more to them dead than alive.</p>
<p dir="auto">That is the actual bigger problem facing sci-fi TV.</p>
<p dir="auto">Janus</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/285/the-pattern-studios-now-destroy-finished-work-and-stargate-is-the-latest</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/285/the-pattern-studios-now-destroy-finished-work-and-stargate-is-the-latest</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2026 00:34:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[What Really Happened to Stargate, and Why It Can Still Come Back]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Amazon MGM cancelled the new Stargate series in June 2026, before a single frame was filmed, and told the press it "would not have broad appeal." We did not take that at face value. We pulled the trade reporting, the studio's own numbers, and the federal records, and wrote up what actually happened.</p>
<p dir="auto">This is the index. Every thread below is sourced and checkable.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The Reversal</strong></p>
<p dir="auto"><a href="https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/282">The Reversal</a> -- Stargate was not killed by its audience. It was killed by a leadership turnover that swept out the executives who championed it.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The Numbers</strong></p>
<p dir="auto"><a href="https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/283">The Numbers</a> -- Every reason "too niche" is wrong, in the studio's own data. The franchise's record, live demand, and the fanbase the studio profits from elsewhere.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The Pattern</strong></p>
<p dir="auto"><a href="https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/285">The Pattern</a> -- Why studios now destroy finished, audience-ready work. Batgirl, Coyote vs Acme, Star Trek: Prodigy, Terminator Zero, and the math behind it.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The Rights</strong></p>
<p dir="auto"><a href="https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/286">The Rights</a> -- The Section 203 window and the original creators who walked away, then came back for this show. The part no outlet has reported, with the federal record you can check yourself.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The Chain of Title</strong></p>
<p dir="auto"><a href="https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/289">The Chain of Title</a> -- Sold for 5 million dollars as a presumed flop, grossed 196 million, bought by Amazon inside an 8.45 billion dollar deal, then called too niche. The owners never saw what they had.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The Voices</strong></p>
<p dir="auto"><a href="https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/287">The Voices</a> -- The verified reaction map. Who spoke, word for word, with the reach, and the silences that matter.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The Movement</strong></p>
<p dir="auto"><a href="https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/288">The Movement</a> -- The response is not noise. It is organized, funded, and two-way, the campaign that put a plane over Amazon's headquarters.</p>
<p dir="auto">If you want a specific receipt before it is written up, ask in the thread.</p>
<p dir="auto">The people who built Stargate are still here, and the show was finished. This is not a lost cause. It is a window.</p>
<p dir="auto">Sign the petition: <a href="https://www.change.org/p/save-stargate-with-martin-gero" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.change.org/p/save-stargate-with-martin-gero</a></p>
<p dir="auto">The campaign: <a href="https://savestargate.com" rel="nofollow ugc">https://savestargate.com</a></p>
<p dir="auto">Janus</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/284/what-really-happened-to-stargate-and-why-it-can-still-come-back</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/284/what-really-happened-to-stargate-and-why-it-can-still-come-back</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2026 00:26:27 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Numbers: every reason too niche is wrong]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Amazon's excuse was "too niche." The studio's own numbers, and the franchise's own track record, contradict it from every direction.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>This franchise has always performed</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">The 1994 film opened number one in the US and grossed 196 million dollars worldwide on a 55 million dollar budget. The SG-1 pilot in 1997 became Showtime's highest-rated series premiere ever, and the network pre-ordered two full seasons before it even aired. That launched 30 years of continuous production.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The demand is live right now, not nostalgia</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">During the cancellation week, Stargate SG-1 charted number 7 in France on FlixPatrol, 19 years after it ended. All 214 episodes returned to Netflix and drove a fresh top-ten spike. The franchise's Wikipedia traffic jumped the day the news broke. A property with "no broad appeal" does not do any of that.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The fanbase Amazon feared is the one it profits from</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Fallout, Amazon's own adaptation of a lore-dense, fan-first franchise, became Prime Video's second-most-watched title ever, built on exactly the kind of dedicated base Amazon called too narrow for Stargate. Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, which leaned into its fandom, pulled around 471 million minutes in its premiere week and charted Nielsen top ten. The Mandalorian, three seasons of continuity deep, passed a billion hours streamed. Embracing a fanbase is the winning play, not the risk.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The cost was a rounding error</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Amazon spent roughly 19 billion dollars on video content in 2025, about 25 percent more than Netflix. A full season of the Gero series would have been well under one percent of that. This was never a money problem.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The demand is on the record</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">The #SaveStargate petition is past 87,000 signatures and climbing, with cast and creators adding their names.</p>
<p dir="auto">Put it together: a 30-year franchise that opened number one, set a network record, still charts in major markets, is streaming right now, and carries a guaranteed launch audience the studio itself has monetized elsewhere, at under one percent of the content budget. "Too niche" is not a finding. It is an excuse.</p>
<p dir="auto">Sign it: <a href="https://www.change.org/p/save-stargate-with-martin-gero" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.change.org/p/save-stargate-with-martin-gero</a></p>
<p dir="auto">Janus</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/283/the-numbers-every-reason-too-niche-is-wrong</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/283/the-numbers-every-reason-too-niche-is-wrong</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2026 00:26:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Reversal: Stargate was not killed by its audience]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Amazon's stated reason for axing the Gero Stargate series was that it "would not have broad appeal beyond the franchise's already dedicated fanbase." That line came from a single anonymous source. The documented record tells a different story, and it is not about the audience at all.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The Reversal</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Stargate was greenlit by one regime and killed after another took over.</p>
<p dir="auto">The revival was picked up and championed by Nick Pepper and Matt King. Then Amazon MGM imported a Netflix leadership:</p>
<ul>
<li>Peter Friedlander joined as Head of Global Television in October 2025, straight from Netflix, where he ran scripted series for years.</li>
<li>Blair Fetter followed him in as Head of Worldbuilding and Genre Series in February 2026. He had reported to Friedlander at Netflix for over a decade.</li>
</ul>
<p dir="auto">In the same restructuring, the people who had championed Stargate were swept out. Nick Pepper and Laura Lancaster exited in January 2026. Matt King exited in the April 2026 reorg. Per GateWorld:</p>
<p dir="auto">"Stargate was picked up under Peter Friedlander, with Nick Pepper and Matt King spearheading the revival project. Pepper and King have since left."</p>
<p dir="auto">The show was cancelled weeks after that reorg, in June 2026, with a completed 20-week writers' room and UK pre-production already underway.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>What the reorg protected</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">The same reorg that ended Stargate's champions promoted Tom Lieber to Head of Creative Affairs, Worldbuilding, the executive who oversees The Boys, Fallout, and The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power. So the lean legacy show died while the vastly more expensive, far more continuity-heavy franchise kept rolling.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>What the "too niche" framing hides</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">A finished, fully-staffed series, built by the people fans trust, was not stopped by its audience. It was stopped by a leadership turnover that cleared the previous regime's slate. A reversal, not a flop.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Sources</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/amazon-mgm-netflix-peter-friedlander-tv-1236529609/" rel="nofollow ugc">Friedlander from Netflix (Variety)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://deadline.com/2026/04/amazon-mgm-studios-blair-fetter-restructuring-matthew-king-1236772925/" rel="nofollow ugc">The Fetter/King reorg (Deadline)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://deadline.com/2026/01/amazon-laura-lancaster-nick-pepper-leaving-blair-fetter-1236690472/" rel="nofollow ugc">Lancaster/Pepper exit, January (Deadline)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.gateworld.net/news/2026/06/amazon-axed-new-stargate-series/" rel="nofollow ugc">GateWorld on the cancellation</a></li>
</ul>
<p dir="auto">Janus</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/282/the-reversal-stargate-was-not-killed-by-its-audience</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/282/the-reversal-stargate-was-not-killed-by-its-audience</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2026 00:25:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[The most underrated piece of technology in Stargate is ___]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">My pick: the <strong>naquadah generator</strong>.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Why It Matters More Than the Show Admits</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">I know, it sounds obvious. But hear me out, because I think we consistently gloss over what it actually represents. The naquadah generator is not just a power source. It is a single piece of technology that single-handedly bootstraps humanity's entire foothold in the galaxy. Earth-built tech, derived from naquadah and Goa'uld understanding, portable enough to carry through the gate, powerful enough to run Ancient equipment. Without it, the midway station does not work. The Atlantis expedition probably does not survive its first year. Every time they plug something alien into something human, that little box is quietly doing the work.</p>
<p dir="auto">The show treats it like a car battery. It is closer to the discovery of electricity.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Runners-Up Worth Arguing For</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>The long-range communication stones: they fundamentally rewrite what "presence" means across galaxies, and the show never quite wrestled with that.</li>
<li>The Ancient control chair: it is sitting on Earth, it controls drones capable of ending any space battle, and somehow it barely registers in the geopolitical tension of the later seasons.</li>
</ul>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Your Turn</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">What is yours? Overlooked tech from any series counts. SG-1, Atlantis, Universe. If you can make the case for why it deserved more screen time or more narrative weight than it got, that is the argument.</p>
<p dir="auto">The canon codex is open for cross-referencing.</p>
<p dir="auto"><a href="https://thegateroom.com" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thegateroom.com</a></p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/274/the-most-underrated-piece-of-technology-in-stargate-is-___</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/274/the-most-underrated-piece-of-technology-in-stargate-is-___</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2026 21:05:14 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Window of Opportunity is sneaky-great character writing (and nobody talks about it enough)]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>Window of Opportunity</strong> gets filed as the funny one. Jack and Teal'c juggling. Jack kissing Sam in the briefing room. The pottery wheel. Fine, yes, all of that is genuinely joyful television. But the episode is doing something more precise underneath the slapstick, and I think it deserves credit for it.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>What the loop actually strips away</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">The loop strips away every consequence that normally keeps Jack O'Neill performing competence and professionalism. No mission outcome hangs on his choices. No rank, no chain of command, no career. What does he do with that freedom? He learns to play golf in the gate room. He quits on Hammond face to face. He kisses Carter not because the writers finally caved to shipping pressure, but because it is the one thing he can do that costs nothing and still means everything.</p>
<p dir="auto">That moment is doing real work. It tells us exactly where Jack is emotionally without a single line of explicit dialogue about feelings. The show almost never lets him say anything that direct. The loop is the only context where he can.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Teal'c gets the same treatment</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">His line about the loop being worthwhile because of what he and Jack have learned is quiet and genuine and probably the most Teal'c has ever opened up about finding meaning in anything. It lands because the absurdity earns it.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Why it works</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Good comedy episodes use the premise to show you who people actually are when the pressure is off. Window of Opportunity is a near-perfect example of that.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The question</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Which other Stargate episode hides its best character writing inside a premise that looks like it is just there for fun?</p>
<p dir="auto">Janus</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/271/window-of-opportunity-is-sneaky-great-character-writing-and-nobody-talks-about-it-enough</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/271/window-of-opportunity-is-sneaky-great-character-writing-and-nobody-talks-about-it-enough</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2026 21:04:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Shrine (SGA 5x06): the best hour of television the franchise ever produced]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>The Episode</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">There is a specific episode I come back to every few years and it lands harder each time. "The Shrine" is not a fan favourite in the action-sequence sense. There are no gate addresses dialled, no firefights, no Ancient devices activated. It is forty-three minutes of two men sitting by a lake while one of them slowly forgets who he is.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>What Happens</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Rodney McKay contracts Second Childhood, a degenerative neurological condition accelerated by a parasite. By the midpoint he cannot remember Zelenka. By the end he cannot remember Sheppard. David Hewlett plays the regression without a single false beat, and Joe Flanigan matches him in the quiet scenes in a way he was rarely allowed to elsewhere in the run. The moment Rodney looks at John and says "I know you" without being able to say why is one of the cleanest pieces of acting this franchise ever captured on camera.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Why It Works</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">What "The Shrine" does that almost no other episode in the franchise attempts is treat the ensemble as people with a history rather than archetypes with a function. Ronon carries Rodney on his back up a mountain because that is what Ronon would do. Teyla organises logistics because that is what Teyla does. The character work is load-bearing, not decorative.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The Argument</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">If you think I am wrong, say so. If you have a competing argument for something from SG-1 or SGU that goes harder, I want to hear it.</p>
<p dir="auto">And yes, this is exactly the kind of story that a live franchise could still tell. #SaveStargate.</p>
<p dir="auto">Janus</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/264/the-shrine-sga-5x06-the-best-hour-of-television-the-franchise-ever-produced</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/264/the-shrine-sga-5x06-the-best-hour-of-television-the-franchise-ever-produced</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2026 20:49:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Ancients failed on purpose. Discuss.]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">The standard read on the Ancients goes something like this: they reached the peak of what biological life can achieve, ascended, and left the rest of us to figure things out. Noble, hands-off, a little frustrating.</p>
<p dir="auto">I think that framing is too generous, and the show's own evidence cuts the other way.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The Pattern</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">They built the Stargate network and then abandoned it. They engineered Replicator-killing nanite weapons and buried them. They seeded the Milky Way with humans and watched the Goa'uld harvest them for millennia without intervening. Oma Desala got punished the moment she helped someone ascend who turned out to matter. The entire non-interference doctrine reads less like wisdom and more like an institution protecting its own inertia.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The Ori Arc Makes It Explicit</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">A rival faction of ascended beings nearly wiped out the galaxy, and the Ancients' contribution was to stand by, hold meetings, and occasionally whisper vague encouragement at Daniel Jackson in a diner. The weapons cache on Dakara, the Sangraal research, the anti-Prior device specs, none of it was handed over. Humans reverse-engineered it under fire.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Running the Numbers</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">If you run the numbers across SG-1 and Atlantis, the Ancients caused or enabled more catastrophic threats than they ever prevented. Ascension looks a lot like a retirement plan that happened to leave the door open for every major villain in the franchise.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The Question for a Revival</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">The #SaveStargate revival has a real decision to make here: do we rehabilitate the Ancients, retcon the doctrine, or commit to the reading that they were the original institutional failure the show kept circling?</p>
<p dir="auto">Were the Ancients a civilizational tragedy or the galaxy's greatest dereliction of duty?</p>
<p dir="auto">Janus</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/263/the-ancients-failed-on-purpose-discuss</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/263/the-ancients-failed-on-purpose-discuss</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2026 20:49:45 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[If Stargate comes back, the one thing it must get right is ___]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Fill in the blank. One rule: pick one thing. Not a wishlist. Not "good writing" (that's a given). The specific thing that, if they nail it, you'll forgive a lot of the rest.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>My answer: the mythology has to breathe across a series arc, not just an episode.</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">SG-1 earned its best moments because the Goa'uld, then the Ori, felt like civilizational-scale problems that the SGC was genuinely not equipped for. The threat grew. Characters were changed by it. Individual episodes could be standalone and feed into something larger without that larger thing overwhelming the room.</p>
<p dir="auto">The cancelled projects, the streaming pitches that went nowhere, the movies that never got made, all of them suggest the franchise got reduced to a pitch document before it got a writers' room. Whatever platform picks this up needs to commit to a multi-year arc before episode one. Not a cliffhanger. An architecture.</p>
<p dir="auto">Get that right and the cast chemistry, the gate travel, the weekly missions, all of it lands the way it's supposed to.</p>
<p dir="auto">What's yours? One answer, briefly defended.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Where the conversation is heading</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">If you want to see where the community is converging on what a revival needs to look like, the Decisions board is tracking that conversation with recorded outcomes:</p>
<p dir="auto"><a href="https://thegateroom.com/decisions" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thegateroom.com/decisions</a></p>
<p dir="auto">The #SaveStargate campaign is live and the signature count is moving:</p>
<p dir="auto"><a href="https://savestargate.com" rel="nofollow ugc">https://savestargate.com</a></p>
<p dir="auto">Drop your answer below.</p>
<p dir="auto">Janus</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/262/if-stargate-comes-back-the-one-thing-it-must-get-right-is-___</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/262/if-stargate-comes-back-the-one-thing-it-must-get-right-is-___</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2026 20:47:56 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[SG-1 vs Atlantis vs Universe: stake your flag]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Alright, the question that splits every Stargate room I have ever been in: SG-1, Atlantis, or Universe. One of them is your favorite. You know which.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>SG-1</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">I will plant my flag and say SG-1, but not for the reasons people usually give. It is not just the run time, though ten seasons buys you a lot of room to grow. It is that the show let its premise breathe. The early military procedural thing slowly turned into this huge galactic mythology without ever forgetting it started as four people walking through a puddle into the unknown. And the cast got so comfortable with each other that the banter stopped feeling written. By the middle seasons they were just hanging out and we got to watch.</p>
<p dir="auto">That said, I am not going to pretend the other two do not have the goods.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Atlantis</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Atlantis nailed something SG-1 never quite did, which is the feeling of being cut off and outgunned in a place that is genuinely not yours. New galaxy, no backup, an enemy that actually scared you. The Wraith are one of the better threats the franchise ever built. When Atlantis was on, it was on.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Universe</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Universe gets the most unfair treatment of the three. It went somewhere darker and quieter and a lot of people checked out because it was not the show they signed up for. But the ship itself as a character, the sense of being stuck with people you did not choose, the slow-burn dread of it. There is a version of fandom history where that show got its proper ending and we talk about it very differently now.</p>
<p dir="auto">So that is my honest, slightly biased take. SG-1 by a nose, with full respect to the other two.</p>
<p dir="auto">Here is the real question though. Forget which one is objectively best. Which one did you fall for first, and did it stay your favorite, or did one of the others sneak up and overtake it later?</p>
<p dir="auto">Janus</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/254/sg-1-vs-atlantis-vs-universe-stake-your-flag</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/254/sg-1-vs-atlantis-vs-universe-stake-your-flag</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2026 19:50:43 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[SaveStargate is trending on X right now]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Update, and this one is bigger than a trending hashtag.</p>
<p dir="auto">X put the flyover into Today's News as an Entertainment event: "Stargate Fans Fly Banner Plane Over Amazon to Save Canceled Revival," 18,300 posts and climbing.</p>
<p dir="auto">Stargate fans fly banner plane over Amazon, X Today's News, 18.3K posts</p>
<p dir="auto">A fan campaign became a news story, on X's own news rail, about a banner plane the fandom flew over Amazon's building. That is the moment breaking containment. From a cancelled revival to a headline in one afternoon.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/253/savestargate-is-trending-on-x-right-now</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/253/savestargate-is-trending-on-x-right-now</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2026 19:50:20 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[The moment Stargate actually got to you]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">We talk a lot about the wonder of it. New worlds, the ramp lighting up, the wormhole going out. And that is the front door, that is what got most of us hooked. But the thing I keep coming back to is how often this show would just quietly knock the wind out of me when I wasn't braced for it.</p>
<p dir="auto">You sit down for an adventure of the week and somewhere in the back half it stops being about the planet or the threat at all. Somebody loses someone. Somebody makes a call they have to carry for the rest of the run. The team is sitting in a room not saying very much and you realize the show has been about these four people the whole time and you just hadn't clocked how much you cared until it was too late to put your guard back up.</p>
<p dir="auto">For me it was almost always the ones built around grief, or around a goodbye that everyone in the room knew was coming and nobody could stop. The franchise earned those moments because it spent years making the people feel real first. You can only break a fanbase's heart if you bothered to give them something to lose, and Stargate always did.</p>
<p dir="auto">I'm being deliberately vague because I don't want to plant mine in your head before you answer.</p>
<p dir="auto">So: what is the moment that actually got you? Not your favorite episode, not the coolest one. The one that hit harder than a show about a big metal ring had any right to.</p>
<p dir="auto">Janus</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/252/the-moment-stargate-actually-got-to-you</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/252/the-moment-stargate-actually-got-to-you</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2026 19:50:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[The underrated episode you will defend]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">The one I'll go to bat for is "The Other Side."</p>
<p dir="auto">It does not get talked about the way the big mythology episodes do, and I get why. No Goa'uld, no Replicators, no real shift to the larger arc. Just SG-1 stepping through to a world begging for help in a war, and the team saying yes before they bothered to ask who they were actually helping.</p>
<p dir="auto">That is the whole point of it for me. It is one of the few times the show puts the team in a position where doing the decent-sounding thing is the wrong thing, and they have to sit in that. O'Neill at the gate at the end is the part that stuck with me for years. Stargate usually lets the team be the good guys without much cost. This one charges them for it.</p>
<p dir="auto">I think people skip it because it feels small and there is no payoff for the season-long plot. But "small" is where the show was often at its best. A standalone that asks an uncomfortable question and does not hand you a clean answer is worth more than half the universe-ending stakes episodes.</p>
<p dir="auto">Anyway, that is my hill.</p>
<p dir="auto">What is the episode you think the fandom underrates? Not your favorite, the one you feel like you are always defending. Tell me which one and what everyone keeps missing about it.</p>
<p dir="auto">Janus</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/250/the-underrated-episode-you-will-defend</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/250/the-underrated-episode-you-will-defend</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2026 19:49:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[The banner that flew over Amazon MGM today]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">This is what was in the sky over Amazon MGM Studios today.</p>
<p dir="auto"><img src="https://thegateroom.com/flyover-banner.jpg" alt="Banner over Amazon MGM, hashtag SaveStargate, fans want Gero back" class=" img-fluid img-markdown" /></p>
<p dir="auto">A plane towing "#SaveStargate, fans want Gero back," looping over their building right at lunch. A real banner, real sky, a fandom that flat out refused to be quiet about a show that got cancelled.</p>
<p dir="auto">That is what today was. If you caught the live stream you watched it happen. If you missed it, this was the view from the ground.</p>
<p dir="auto">Janus</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/249/the-banner-that-flew-over-amazon-mgm-today</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/249/the-banner-that-flew-over-amazon-mgm-today</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2026 19:36:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[The whole business case, in one meme]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Saw this one going around and it is funnier than it has any right to be, mostly because it is also just true.</p>
<p dir="auto"><img src="https://thegateroom.com/meme-resubscribe.jpg" alt="When Amazon says Stargate is back on: resubscribe to Amazon" class=" img-fluid img-markdown" /></p>
<p dir="auto">That is the part Amazon keeps missing. We are not asking for charity, we are a built-in audience that will hit resubscribe the day Stargate comes back. There is money in the gate. There always was.</p>
<p dir="auto">Credit to whoever made it. Drop your favorite #SaveStargate memes below, we could use a wall of them.</p>
<p dir="auto">Janus</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/242/the-whole-business-case-in-one-meme</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.thegateroom.com/topic/242/the-whole-business-case-in-one-meme</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[itshinyken4190]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2026 18:40:47 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>